Trolley Driver Accused Of Texting Indicted

[70Ace]

Originally Posted by Razor

A mistake??...as in "Nobody told me I couldn't text while operating a train/trolley." It's more likely a case where the operator made the conscious choice to violate the law with the hopes that he wouldn't get caught.

Yes he made a mistake. So none of you have violated any federal, or company rule? How many people broke rules only to be given a second chance by the union? Let he with out sin cast the first stone. Remember that. Punish yes, but I'm sure he feels remorse for what happened, and if had a second chance would not do it again. Doesn't everyone deserve a second chance like i'm sure some of you have had in ur lives?

[70Ace]

Originally Posted by corn-huh?-sker

He hurt innocent people! He knew it was an FRA violation to use the phone, he chose to do it anyway! he deserves punishment to the fullest extent of the law

Have you ever violated any company rule? If you have isn't 100% rule compliance the norm? Then shouldn't you be fired? So you are alos saying you have broken no law in your life?

[prostock19]

She or he, whatever this person is now, deserves her day in court. Everyone knew that the FRA and the companies will come down hard on the new cell phone rules and the Emergency Order. But she did it and passed 2 signals. That is a bad thing.

The thing I think could help her is that she was honest about it. I hope the best for her.

[corn-huh?-sker]

Originally Posted by 70Ace

Have you ever violated any company rule? If you have isn't 100% rule compliance the norm? Then shouldn't you be fired? So you are alos saying you have broken no law in your life?

Yea i have broken a rule or two. Smoked in the cab, train moved an inch when i stepped off, stretch braked, stuff like that.

But this guy made a life threataning "mistake". would you cut me a break if i say pulled past a red signal to get a better look around the corner? or just start charging the air while someone is in still in between? Or lets just shove back to clear a switch with no regard for anyones safety! Would you cut me a break for that shit I know is wrong but its just a "mistake"

[6MaxNL]

"pulled past a red signal to get a better look around the corner"???

gonna need to remember that...

[jonnyseeandoh]

Originally Posted by 6MaxNL

"pulled past a red signal to get a better look around the corner"???

gonna need to remember that...

On a side note, whyizzit stop signals never occur anywhere but the sharp end of a curve?

[70Ace]

Originally Posted by corn-huh?-sker

Yea i have broken a rule or two. Smoked in the cab, train moved an inch when i stepped off, stretch braked, stuff like that.

But this guy made a life threataning "mistake". would you cut me a break if i say pulled past a red signal to get a better look around the corner? or just start charging the air while someone is in still in between? Or lets just shove back to clear a switch with no regard for anyones safety! Would you cut me a break for that shit I know is wrong but its just a "mistake"

You cannot choose which rule you will follow or brake. In the eyes of the company 100% rule compliance!! You should be fired and given no second chance. I didn't say cut him a break good job trying to twist my opinion how mature. Read what I said!! I said he should be punished he broke the rule, the same way you should be. A rule is a rule. I also feel that he should be given a second chance they same way you and many others. Are you saying for your entire railroad career you have never used your phone while on moving equipment? Everyone saying throw the book at him can you all say you have never used your phone while on moving equipment? Like prostock19 mention the guy admitted he messed up from the start, shows remorse to me. Oh and please do not twist my words to make your point seem more rational, that is very ignorant.

[BadOrderKing]

Originally Posted by 70Ace

You cannot choose which rule you will follow or brake. In the eyes of the company 100% rule compliance!! You should be fired and given no second chance. I didn't say cut him a break good job trying to twist my opinion how mature. Read what I said!! I said he should be punished he broke the rule, the same way you should be. A rule is a rule. I also feel that he should be given a second chance they same way you and many others. Are you saying for your entire railroad career you have never used your phone while on moving equipment? Everyone saying throw the book at him can you all say you have never used your phone while on moving equipment? Like prostock19 mention the guy admitted he messed up from the start, shows remorse to me. Oh and please do not twist my words to make your point seem more rational, that is very ignorant.

Would it make you feel any beter if a drunk driver felt remorse after killing one of your family members?
Or would you prefer justice to be served to an adult that made a desicion that he knew was proven to be very dangerous?

If this person is allowed to slide or they take it easy on them, they are only opening the door for for lives to be at risk.
I dont know what your company policy is on cell phone use, nor do I know what the FRA has mandated. I do know that our policy is fairly common sense. Dont use your phone ofr anything while operating equipment, in a red zone and IF you must use it, it better be for business and all involved ust be informed. Such use will be for VOICE ONLY.

[70Ace]

No one was killed. If someone was then it is a different crime. You can not compare the two. So you are saying you have broke no rule and gotten away with it? When you were allowed to break rules and not be punished it allowed you to no be a worst employee? You are saying this person will not learn from the mistake they made? It is so funny how people can easily become hypocrites when looking from the outside.

[70Ace]

Originally Posted by BadOrderKing

Would it make you feel any beter if a drunk driver felt remorse after killing one of your family members?
Or would you prefer justice to be served to an adult that made a desicion that he knew was proven to be very dangerous?

If this person is allowed to slide or they take it easy on them, they are only opening the door for for lives to be at risk.
I dont know what your company policy is on cell phone use, nor do I know what the FRA has mandated. I do know that our policy is fairly common sense. Dont use your phone ofr anything while operating equipment, in a red zone and IF you must use it, it better be for business and all involved ust be informed. Such use will be for VOICE ONLY.

By the way the question was have anyone one used their phone while on moving equipment? Have you or have you not? Voice or not cell phone use is cell phone use. Txting or voice they are both distractions!