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Old 07-07-2009, 09:20 PM
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BO, simple, don't understand, DON'T SIGN. If they can't give you an answer that is understood, then you don't sign it.
There was a similar case and when it boiled down it didn't take 24 hours to get a "real" answer. Your justification for "not understanding" is now on record and a good start if its ever needed. unless they used some whiteout!
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BO, simple, don't understand, DON'T SIGN. If they can't give you an answer that is understood, then you don't sign it.
There was a similar case and when it boiled down it didn't take 24 hours to get a "real" answer. Your justification for "not understanding" is now on record and a good start if its ever needed. unless they used some whiteout!
Whiteout would not suprise me. Without any union representation, there is a lot of intimidation going on here. In the past, there was little need to be concerned, well now its getting real.

All were informed that they had to sign and signing only indicated tat we received the rule. It will take more than one person getting serious about this. So far little interest is shown. Only bitching about the lack of representation. Everyone is terrified that they will be fired for even mentioning union. Seems that way anyhow.

I have finally got a couple of guys to see the importance of this. Im just hoping I can keep them in the right direction.

How the hell do you motivate people to get organized before its too late?
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How the hell do you motivate people to get organized before its too late?
well if you listen most local union reps can never make everyone happy. we are all the biggest pricks who are not remembered for the timeslips we got paid, the jobs you got back or the discipline you got reduced or removed. but we are certainly remembered for that 20 minute claim we just cant get paid. many guys dont care about the union UNTIL THEY NEED IT. which in many cases it is too late.
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well if you listen most local union reps can never make everyone happy. we are all the biggest pricks who are not remembered for the timeslips we got paid, the jobs you got back or the discipline you got reduced or removed. but we are certainly remembered for that 20 minute claim we just cant get paid. many guys dont care about the union UNTIL THEY NEED IT. which in many cases it is too late.
Our union rep is hours south of us. We have not had a union meeting, from what I hear, over five years ago. The carrier wont even give us copies of our contract. I have brought all this to his attention and h blows it off. He keeps saying that someone needs to step up here and atleast be his "go between". Well, I couldnt get anyone else interested, so I volunteered. Thats the last I heard from him.

To top it off, I just heard that he will be retiring soon and the closest rep then will be in Houston. 5 freekin hours away.
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The only way I've ever seen the men of a union come together was when they had MAJOR issues.
The first time I saw this truly was when they closed our terminal!
It took something that major and by this point, it was too late!

I hate to say it, but GSXR put it well.

Most good LC's are treated like TP, we get used and flushed! LMAO.
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My dad was a union rep for many years and he says the same thing. You constantly get accused of being in bed with the company and rarely recognized that a small amount of politics is what has kept a few of them from loosing their jobs all together.
Believe me, he is no company man.

I think I stumbled on a lot of the information that Ihad been looking for last night on the TCU website. It should only take about 5 more hours of reading, sifting and printing to have half the info Im looking for.
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The only way I've ever seen the men of a union come together was when they had MAJOR issues.
The first time I saw this truly was when they closed our terminal!
It took something that major and by this point, it was too late!

I hate to say it, but GSXR put it well.

Most good LC's are treated like TP, we get used and flushed! LMAO.
man that makes me feel bad. "i hate to say it" throttle you hurting my feelings.
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My dad was a union rep for many years and he says the same thing. You constantly get accused of being in bed with the company and rarely recognized that a small amount of politics is what has kept a few of them from loosing their jobs all together.
Believe me, he is no company man.

I think I stumbled on a lot of the information that Ihad been looking for last night on the TCU website. It should only take about 5 more hours of reading, sifting and printing to have half the info Im looking for.
Its a never ending battle, however only good LC's survive when they have a strong union. I always considered my old terminal a strong union, even though it took major events to get the majority involved.
The biggest thing was setting new agreements inside old ones. No matter how good of a job you did, someone or some group felt they took a hosing! Either the old heads or the young guys, or the cross agreement men (we no longer have those).
So, you go figure, it doesn't take much to piss one small group off.

The best thing you can do is to help your members and don't talk about them!
There is one former LC at a nearby terminal that liked to talk about his members problems to others and it spread like wildfire! I would never speak to this sack of crap for an LC.
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HIPPA does not allow ANYONE access to your records. Court orders may be a different thing. If they railroad obtains your medical records without your consent or obtaining more than they were given access to you more than likely have a lawsuit against them and the medical offices that screwed up by giving it to them.

Its called FELA. THe carrier does not have any authority under FELA to access your medical records unless you give them that authority. So make sure your doctor or the emergency room doctor is aware that you're covered under FELA and not under workman's comp.

If the doctor is not aware that you are covered under FELA and thinks your covered under Workman's Comp your records could be released to the carrier official by this misunderstanding.

So make sure they know you're covered under FELA and not workman's comp.

Most Doctor's do not even know what FELA is.

Most of the time this screw up happens in the emergency room.
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Bad Order you must be in Sam Joes local I have all the agreement I can email them to. I think that Buddy is going to run for the LC the TSC guy. It is not all the LC down there it is the GC that is a big problem your local it spread out to far for one thing. He has about 5 or 6 VLC to help him.
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