30/60 please leave

badorder · Tweet this Post! #1 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 11:53 AM

let me throw this out there guys concerning the the slow down and furloughing. we have a lot of people in ga that are eligible to retire and refuse to leave. hell, some have been eligible for years! I know everyone has different financial situations, but if they have not been taken care of by the time you are ready to retire(or at least reduced) then maybe a financial advisor is well overdue. Anyway, I believe that both engineer and conductor xtraboards could weather the job cuts a little better if some (or all) of the 30/60 club would just take it to the house..... and stay! Enjoy the fruits of your labor, get to know your wife again, help out a young conductor, RETIRE DAMMIT!!!!!!!

throttle · Tweet this Post! #2 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:09 PM

Screw that. I love to hear you guys bitch.
I went through this 3 times! And all of them worse then current.
I learned to live with it, I suggest you do the same.

In other words, BITE IT!

another newbie wanting seniority.

Why should I retire if I am still healthy, still like going to work, still make good money?
Why should I retire just to give you work? Perhaps the railroad over hired and you aren't needed?

conductor25801 · Tweet this Post! #3 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:25 PM

wow throttle I really hate you now lol. Your really a brothers keeper. your right u have every right. but just think of this. You have plenty of money in ur bank im sure. Us new guys have average 1300 in 2 weeks with familys of 3 children when you all u have is ur grandbabys, so we have no chance of saving up for things like this. An we are going to go thru what you did and Im doing it right now with 3 kids and 615 every two weeks and me being new I didnt know about saving up ( i do now though) so we are (biting it) plus last year I didnt have RR Unemployment. the railroad didnt over hire. when things are rolling we dont have enough where I am. I dont really hate you but man It would help me and my family alot.

throttle · Tweet this Post! #4 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:38 PM

Conductor, sorry, you dont even have a clue.
I had 4 kids the first time I was cut off.
The second time I had 2 kids in college and 1 at home, the other has just hired on the railroad and got cut himself, he moved back in.
Then I had my railroad tore up and had to move, sell what I owned and move!
Start anew and work my way back up.
I had to repay many debts I owed, and worked hard. I had to even pick up and protect my seniority in order to stay working, while I had a family.

So, don't tell me anything about not understanding. You think when it happened to me I had money?

Don't think I don't have compassion, I do. But I learned long ago nothing on the railroad is certain and the current generation of railroaders have been spoiled!

engsjh · Tweet this Post! #5 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:39 PM

Most of these 30/60 guys are probably losing money to come to work. GO! GO! GO! Find a hobby or go work on some scab short line or tourist railroad. Collect some of that pension before you croak in the seat.

throttle · Tweet this Post! #6 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by engsjh

Most of these 30/60 guys are probably losing money to come to work. GO! GO! GO! Find a hobby or go work on some scab short line or tourist railroad. Collect some of that pension before you croak in the seat.

Last time I checked, NO, I make more by working.

throttle · Tweet this Post! #7 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:47 PM

Or as Denver would say, "why don't you leave, the railroad doesn't need ya!"

Sometimes I wonder how true that is. Specific to the locations they over hired.

badorder · Tweet this Post! #8 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:48 PM

I guess throttle misses the point. It is'nt about seniority, it's about making a living. I talk to many retired employees (one in particular who comes to all of our local union meetings) who said retiring was the "best thing that has happened to them in a long time!" I am not bitching for my own gain(i stand for regular jobs in the yard and road) but i do have friends on the xtra board who are starving. I guess i can't understand why someone would want to continue a career here when they can retire and enjoy the rest of their days doing what they want. That is the brass ring we all work for is'nt it? Anyway throttle, if riding up and down these rails till the good lord takes you off the roster is what you want, then i wish all the best my friend. As for me, 30 and i'm out.

engsjh · Tweet this Post! #9 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by throttle

Conductor, sorry, you dont even have a clue.
I had 4 kids the first time I was cut off.
The second time I had 2 kids in college and 1 at home, the other has just hired on the railroad and got cut himself, he moved back in.
Then I had my railroad tore up and had to move, sell what I owned and move!
Start anew and work my way back up.
I had to repay many debts I owed, and worked hard. I had to even pick up and protect my seniority in order to stay working, while I had a family.

So, don't tell me anything about not understanding. You think when it happened to me I had money?

Don't think I don't have compassion, I do. But I learned long ago nothing on the railroad is certain and the current generation of railroaders have been spoiled!

So what your saying is your only out here still because you got cut years ago and you wanna see everyone go through the same shit. Sounds compassionate to me. I do agree w/ you about some of the newer guys. If they can't hold regular within two years they are bitching. The first few years after i hired I got bounced around from New Jersey to Maryland. Mark up on a list and cut the next day when I was head out and that was only 12 years ago.

Rico Suave · Tweet this Post! #10 (**permalink**) 01-08-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by conductor25801

wow throttle I really hate you now lol. Your really a brothers keeper. your right u have every right. but just think of this. You have plenty of money in ur bank im sure. Us new guys have average 1300 in 2 weeks with familys of 3 children when you all u have is ur grandbabys, so we have no chance of saving up for things like this. An we are going to go thru what you did and Im doing it right now with 3 kids and 615 every two weeks and me being new I didnt know about saving up ( i do now though) so we are (biting it) plus last year I didnt have RR Unemployment. the railroad didnt over hire. when things are rolling we dont have enough where I am. I dont really hate you but man It would help me and my family alot.

Not to be snide, or make light of your situation, but if you didn't know, it's because you didn't listen. Everybody that hires gets the same speech from us. "Work as much as you can stand, save as much as you can stand, and don't go into debt for anything." It's the standard mantra on every terminal.

Some listen, some don't. Some tell you to go get fucked, they will do as they see fit. It happens over, and over, and over again.

As to the other aspect of this, I will be the first one to say I don't understand why someone would stay out here past retirement age. My dad did it under the pretense of doing as he pleased and thumbing his nose at officials. He said he was having fun and it was certainly entertaining to watch. After he retired, he stated he wished he had done it sooner.

So where as I don't get it, I will also be the first one to defend anybody that wants to stay even if it's costing me in the short term.

They earned the right if that's really what they want to do. Period.

Rico