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Old 03-02-2009, 04:24 AM
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I just got declined for an order of LC 30 cal ammo. and the CMP is 100 days out when filling orders...
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I just got declined for an order of LC 30 cal ammo. and the CMP is 100 days out when filling orders...
Ah, hell roll your own brass, get a welder, seal the end, put a punch in the bottom, buy some caps, then a melter, pour your own heads and you got it!

Kentucky backwoods ammo making!

Of course I won't be within a mile of you shooting those rounds. LOL
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Old 03-02-2009, 11:39 AM
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I should clarify....

CMP is out of LC stamped M2 ball, first time ever.

HXP greek stuff in enbloc clips is short supply.
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Every time I go to the store I pick up a box of ammo as well kind of like bread or milk. With the market going the way it is again today and Obama talking it down, ammo is going to get harder to get.
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Every time I go to the store I pick up a box of ammo as well kind of like bread or milk. With the market going the way it is again today and Obama talking it down, ammo is going to get harder to get.

Ammo already is getting hard....I'll be making another run here tomorrow
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Ammo already is getting hard....I'll be making another run here tomorrow
Ran tonight to just look for target rounds (9 and 40) good LUCK!
He said that he wasn't hopeful of getting anything in the next week.
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That's because the NRA knows how to get products sold. Scare the hell out of all you poor saps. I am going to start selling bomb shelter kits. Do you guys want to get on the waiting list?
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That's because the NRA knows how to get products sold. Scare the hell out of all you poor saps. I am going to start selling bomb shelter kits. Do you guys want to get on the waiting list?

All you have to do is a Google search of gun control and Obamas picture is all over it, then Hillary and Bill and the list goes on. No fear factoring needed when you have such easy facts to get. You may need the bomb shelter we don't we have the guns.
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Yawn easy debate...Obamas gun policy


Gun policy

As a state legislator in Illinois, Obama supported banning the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic firearms, increasing state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms and requiring manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.[244]

In 1996, during Obama's run for the Illinois State Senate, he was surveyed by a Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois about criminal justice and other issues. Obama's questionnaire showed that he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. Subsequently, Obama denied that his writing was on the document and said that he never favored a ban on the sale and possession of handguns.[245][246][247] In 1999, he urged prohibiting the operation of any gun store within five miles of a school or park, which according to gun-rights advocates would eliminate gun stores from most of the inhabited portion of the United States.[248] He sponsored a bill in 2000 limiting handgun purchases to one per month.

As state senator, he voted against a 2004 measure that allowed self-defense as an affirmative defense for those charged with violating local laws making it otherwise unlawful for such persons to possess firearms.[249] He also voted against allowing persons who had obtained domestic violence protective orders to carry handguns for their protection.[248]

From 1994 through 2002, Obama was a board member of the Joyce Foundation, which amongst other non-gun related activities provides funds for gun control organizations in the United States.[250][251]

While in the U.S. Senate, Obama has supported several gun control measures, including restricting the purchase of firearms at gun shows and the reauthorization of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.[252] Obama voted against legislation protecting firearm manufacturers from certain liability suits, which gun-rights advocates say are designed to bankrupt the firearms industry.[253] Obama did vote in favor of the 2006 Vitter Amendment to prohibit the confiscation of lawful firearms during an emergency or major disaster, which passed 84-16.[254]

During a February 15, 2008 press conference, Obama stated, "I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation."[255] Obama has also stated his opposition to allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms[256] and supports a national law outlawing the practice,[257][258] saying on Chicago Public Radio in 2004 "I continue to support a ban on concealed carry laws".[259]

Obama initially voiced support of Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban. Following the Supreme Court decision that the ban was unconstitutional, he revised his position in support of the decision overturning the law, saying, "Today's decision reinforces that if we act responsibly, we can both protect the constitutional right to bear arms and keep our communities and our children safe."[260] He also said, in response to the ruling, "I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the right of individuals to bear arms... The Supreme Court has now endorsed that view."[261]

After being elected as President, Obama announced that he favors measures that respect Second Amendment rights, while at the same time keeping guns away from children and criminals. He further stated that he wants to close the gun-show loophole and make guns childproof, and that he supports reinstating the expired Assault Weapons Ban and making it permanent.[262]. On February 25, 2009, Attorney General Eric Holder announced that the Obama administration will seek a new assault weapons ban across the United States, claiming that it would have a positive impact on the drug-related violence in Mexico.[263]
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