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[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by Unprotected

So, you're saying torture is the right thing to do?

Nah. Just looking at the Canadian model where underfunded health care is already rationed like chocolate bars on a life raft.

Yeah. Like you are now.

not me...not *US*...we are lucky, because we have good jobs, but don't tell me people don't die every day here in the USA because of lack of health care.that's a fucking lie.

[BadOrderKing]

If people are dieing in this country for a lack of healthcare, im sorry, but they are obviously to stupid and lazy to live.
A small...... and i mean SMALL percentage of people may be just unable, due to mental problems and such, but there is no damn excuse for anyone to be without.
I have worked jobs that offered ins for my family at re-goddamned-diculous amounts, but my family never did without. It hurt like hell, but I got two and three jobs to pay my bills and provide for my family. Then Idid what every American has the right to do....... i got a better damned job, FOR MY FAMILY, not for the lazy fucks who are working shit jobs and too damn good to work more than an eight hour day. They are not forced to work these jobs.
I feel as though these are the same people who pay for coca-cola with food stamps, have little or no health insurance, tell me the economy is killing them, then go home and watch their new 42" LCD.

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by Unprotected

Nice attempt at a dodge.

Your boy now has about fifteen tax cheats and other violators under his belt, not to mention the lies about GITMO, torture, and pulling out of Iraq. This all comes on the heels of scaled-back expectations about the debt package and job creation. The next few years will be one long attempt at making excuses and enlisting the media in helping the masses forget all the lies they were told during the election campaign.

No one has ever owned me in the health care debate. Ever.

Canadians receive a lower (and sometimes unequal) share of the available health care. They pay an astronomical cost for this lower standard of care because it is run as a bloated government bureaucracy, rather than as a private industry driven by the profit principle. Government has no incentive to succeed, so they simply don't care.

The only lie is the incessant claims that you and others make saying that people "can't get health care" in this country if they want it.

[MuddyAxles]

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

the people have spoken, Mudster. try as you may you can't change the facts. regardless of that, we Dems were telling you guys all along that it would happen. not to rub your face in it but, WE TOLD YOU SO!!! [FARTS & WALKS AWAY]

Still, no landslide, no undeniable mandate. Sorry.

Me? I'm bracin' for the trainwreck that's comin'!

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by MuddyAxles

Still, no landslide, no undeniable mandate. Sorry.

Me? I'm bracin' for the trainwreck that's comin'!

there might be a slight derailment Mudster, but we'll get it fixed in a while & resume operations. you gotta have faith. getting rid of those idiots in the Whitehouse was kind of like scrapping an old broken down MOW machine. now we can get the work done.

[amentfan322]

Originally Posted by BadOrderKing

It hurt like hell, but I got two and three jobs to pay my bills and provide for my family. Then Idid what every American has the right to do....... i got a better damned job, FOR MY FAMILY, not for the lazy fucks who are working shit jobs and too damn good to work more than an eight hour day. They are not forced to work these jobs.
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BOK, I hear what you are saying about the lazy fucks, but the problem is now there are no fucking jobs to go around to the people who are willing to work! BTW, is it every Americans right to work their ass off to the detriment of their family so some jackoff ceo can collect a $100 million bonus while you fight to make minimum wage? Fuck that! Big bidness and their palm-greasing republican buddies are what ruined this country and left us in the shape we are in today! i need to amend this a bit: We the American people, are also responsible for our mess. we got so spoiled by having it so good in the Clinton years that we figured we could cruise right on through the next administration. I mean, We had a $100 billion+ surplus. How could somebody fuck that up? Boy, we sure found out real fast, and now we are all paying the price for our apathy! corporate culture loves it when we are "forced to work 2 or 3 jobs. thats what they want! that way, when we do land a "good job", we will do whatever it takes to keep it! Meanwhile, our elected republican politicians sit back and stroke their dick with one hand and count their money with the other!

[MuddyAxles]

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

there might be a slight derailment Mudster, but we'll get it fixed in a while & resume operations. you gotta have faith. getting rid of those idiots in the Whitehouse was kind of like scrapping an old broken down MOW machine. now we can get the work done.

I sointly hope so...nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!

Or we'll all feel like stooges.

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by MuddyAxles

I sointly hope so...nyuck, nyuck, nyuck!

Or we'll all feel like stooges.

"whyyyy you."

[MuddyAxles]

Originally Posted by Unprotected

Just look at Little Barry.

Please. Just lay it out for me. Tell me how this mortgage crisis began in January of '01 and culminated last summer. Please.

Recovery.org doesn't lay out a damn thing. It's more posturing, stalling, and a bunch of "we hopes," "maybes," and "Si, se puede" bullshit.

Actually, I think it started in 1991, or thereabouts, at a bank where Obama's campaign finance manager was chair of the board. They started making the BS loans way back then and failed when the overdue payments never came in.

The woman's name is Penny Pritzker (Obama's first choice for Commerce Sec'y, but withdrew due to this (stolen from Chicage Tribune):

The 2001 collapse of Hinsdale, Ill.-based Superior Bank, which her family co-owned, could be a potential source of controversy for Pritzker in confirmation hearings for any Cabinet nomination. The bank failed amid charges of fraud and mismanagement as it pursued a national business in subprime mortgage lending.

Pritzker was chairman until 1994, and the bank embarked on a subprime lending strategy during her tenure, according to a 2002 report by the U.S. Treasury Department inspector general.

...Google her, she's been hand-in-hand with Barry since back in the 'hood.

And the mortgage surprise is no-o surprise at all. The only question was when would it all blow up.


And our Pres. has had a hand in it since the days of Acorn.

From the tiny Acorn the mighty Oak-a-bama grows...hope it (he) don't get struck by lightnin'!

[Hog&Tow]

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