You want to know about the Stimulus Bill???

[Unprotected]

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho

$455 Billion dollar deficit. Need I say more??? No I think not.

Yes. You need to explain how this deficit caused the mortgage industry to fail.

But you can't. Because the deficit didn't cause this problem. If you disagree, then make your case.

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho

Bush caused this debacle.

How?

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho

Live with it. Accept it.

Sure. Just as soon as you prove it to me.

Originally Posted by Mike Honcho

You won't because you're a republican supporter who worships Rush Limbaugh.

Do you stick your tongue out when you say this sort of thing?






MIKE: HOW DID THE DEFICIT CAUSE THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY TO FALL?

It's a very straight-forward question. It's crucial to you proving your case. Can you?

[MuddyAxles]

Originally Posted by Northern

........... We try to be honest and truthful.

Are you including yourself in the part of the group "Liberal"?

Or part of the group "Gay"?

Be truthful now...

[MuddyAxles]

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

that's where you are wrong.we told them in no uncertain terms that we won't tolerate any more bullshit last election day.sorry you threw your vote away. you could have been part of the movement.

...due to the truce we've called, I know.

But THIS just has to get a mention.

Even The Man himself recognizes he only pulled this off because of a huge number of crossovers (we call' em turncoats, but that's another thread).

The "no uncertain terms" you reference do not exist. The popular vote, so often praised by the liberal left (let's see if they get around to eliminating the Electoral College while they are in power), showed a healthy margin, but in NO WAY was it a landslide.

Obama received 6.8% more votes. That was 8.5 million more votes out of a total of 126 million or so.

Even using Electoral totals, 365 (67%) to 173 (32%) is a solid win, but not considered a landslide by historical standards. That usually requires 80-90% margin to be called a landslide, from what I can find.

Without regard to the numbers, once the cheerleaders get on board with the team captain, you'll see a lot more sobriety around.

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by Unprotected

This is the tragedy of it all. People like you really believe that change is afoot.

Yeah. The majority spoke in '04 as well. I guess you're a big Bush supporter.

you mean like you were before he became known as the Worst President in History?

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by MuddyAxles

...due to the truce we've called, I know.

But THIS just has to get a mention.

Even The Man himself recognizes he only pulled this off because of a huge number of crossovers (we call' em turncoats, but that's another thread).

The "no uncertain terms" you reference do not exist. The popular vote, so often praised by the liberal left (let's see if they get around to eliminating the Electoral College while they are in power), showed a healthy margin, but in NO WAY was it a landslide.

Obama received 6.8% more votes. That was 8.5 million more votes out of a total of 126 million or so.

Even using Electoral totals, 365 (67%) to 173 (32%) is a solid win, but not considered a landslide by historical standards. That usually requires 80-90% margin to be called a landslide, from what I can find.

Without regard to the numbers, once the cheerleaders get on board with the team captain, you'll see a lot more sobriety around.

the people have spoken, Mudster. try as you may you can't change the facts. regardless of that, we Dems were telling you guys all along that it would happen. not to rub your face in it but, WE TOLD YOU SO!!! [FARTS & WALKS AWAY]

[Unprotected]

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

a Stimulus Package that will turn us away from another Great Depression.

Uh-huh.

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

the Iraq War is ending.

Uh-huh.

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

Gitmo closing.

Why? Obama has determined that torture is lawful, and that all the activities at GITMO were lawful.

Originally Posted by Hog&tOW

health care in the works.

"Health Care" is a relative term. Wait until you can't go to the doctor of your choice or you have to wait seven months for cardiac stress test or the only statin available to you is the one that gives you leg cramps.

You may very well get your socialized medicine. You ain't gonna like it, though.

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by Unprotected

Uh-huh.

Uh-huh.

Why? Obama has determined that torture is lawful, and that all the activities at GITMO were lawful.

"Health Care" is a relative term. Wait until you can't go to the doctor of your choice or you have to wait seven months for cardiac stress test or the only statin available to you is the one that gives you leg cramps.

You may very well get your socialized medicine. You ain't gonna like it, though.

at least I won't die for lack of it. [brrrt!]

[Unprotected]

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

why? because it's the right thing to do.

So, you're saying torture is the right thing to do?

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

more Unprostradamus baseless bullshit predictions?

Nah. Just looking at the Canadian model where underfunded health care is already rationed like chocolate bars on a life raft.

Originally Posted by Hog&Tow

at least I won't die for lack of it.

Yeah. Like you are now.

[Hog&Tow]

Originally Posted by Unprotected

So, you're saying torture is the right thing to do?

Nah. Just looking at the Canadian model where underfunded health care is already rationed like chocolate bars on a life raft.

Yeah. Like you are now.

not me...not *US*...we are lucky, because we have good jobs, but don't tell me people don't die every day here in the USA because of lack of health care.that's a fucking lie.

[BadOrderKing]

If people are dieing in this country for a lack of healthcare, im sorry, but they are obviously to stupid and lazy to live.
A small...... and i mean SMALL percentage of people may be just unable, due to mental problems and such, but there is no damn excuse for anyone to be without.
I have worked jobs that offered ins for my family at re-goddamned-diculous amounts, but my family never did without. It hurt like hell, but I got two and three jobs to pay my bills and provide for my family. Then Idid what every American has the right to do....... i got a better damned job, FOR MY FAMILY, not for the lazy fucks who are working shit jobs and too damn good to work more than an eight hour day. They are not forced to work these jobs.
I feel as though these are the same people who pay for coca-cola with food stamps, have little or no health insurance, tell me the economy is killing them, then go home and watch their new 42" LCD.