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Old 04-25-2009, 08:52 PM
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"A straw man is a dummy in the shape of a human usually made up entirely out of straw material, or created by stuffing straw into clothes. Straw men are commonly used as scarecrows, combat training targets, swordsmiths' test targets, effigies to be burned, and as rodeo dummies to distract bulls."


I have been in quite a few rodeo's in my day... never once knew I was a straw man...
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You fucking short memory hypocrites forget about wiretapping? How about illegal search and seizure... Hmm.... Where's that in the constitution?
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Sorry, David Broder or anyone else who says ANY violation of the law is anything but what it is, ILLEGAL doesn't cut it, Anyone who says it is "scapegoating" is full of shit. There is no grey area here, just black and white. The law is the law, and it is NOT open to interpretation........just like unpro and the other gun advocates on here say the fourth amendment isn't open to interpretation. There's NO DIFFERENCE.

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“Should any American soldier be so base and infamous as to injure any [prisoner]. . . I do most earnestly enjoin you to bring him to such severe and exemplary punishment as the enormity of the crime may require. Should it extend to death itself, it will not be disproportional to its guilt at such a time and in such a cause… for by such conduct they bring shame, disgrace and ruin to themselves and their country.” -








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