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Old 07-01-2009, 10:39 PM
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LHI lost my hearing and vision test results from the mobile van that comes around the yard from time doing the test, and I never recieved the form for my engineer triannual about the DMV record. So on the the 30th the road foreman calls me up and asks why haven't I completed all of my requirements. (my licence offically expires on the 29th) So I tell him I did the test with the examanetics van, and I never got the DMV paper, so he gives me a copy and I got it notarized and took another hearing and vision test at the local clinic(all on the 30th). I was currently working as a conductor, Is it right to get HFS?
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I would say only if you were working as an engineer, you don't need the drivers abstract/hearing as a conductor since there is no certification involved..yet.
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LHI lost my hearing and vision test results from the mobile van that comes around the yard from time doing the test, and I never recieved the form for my engineer triannual about the DMV record. So on the the 30th the road foreman calls me up and asks why haven't I completed all of my requirements. (my licence offically expires on the 29th) So I tell him I did the test with the examanetics van, and I never got the DMV paper, so he gives me a copy and I got it notarized and took another hearing and vision test at the local clinic(all on the 30th). I was currently working as a conductor, Is it right to get HFS?
Yep, that sounds right. You are required to keep your license current even if you are working on the ground. If you don't complete everything by the time your card expires, they pull you from service. As usual, it's your responsibility to handle this, that's why you get the whopping $5 certification pay.
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This is happening to RCO guys as well.
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Yep, that sounds right. You are required to keep your license current even if you are working on the ground. If you don't complete everything by the time your card expires, they pull you from service. As usual, it's your responsibility to handle this, that's why you get the whopping $5 certification pay.

Thanks for the information, I didn't know you could get hfs while working the ground. Well the good news is Im marked up as of this morning.
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From the day that your name is placed on an engineers' seniority list you are required to protect your engineer's seniority regardless of whether you are working demoted or not. Consequently, you're required to maintain your engineer's certification in order to be marked up for any kind of service.
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This is happening to RCO guys as well.
There is a difference however. A trainman can let his RCO cert lapse and still go work another job that doesn't require the RCO cert. Say as a conductor, brakeman, a switchman on a conventional job.
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Not anymore - at least not in KC.

Pre-Merger employees can let it lapse and choose not to re-certify.

Post-Merger employees are required to re-certify.

Any employee with a date after 2003 is required to go through RCO training and keep their license current.

Kansas Div. General Notice 1074
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